From Deconstruction to Redemption – Julie Chenell’s Journey Through Faith, Failure, and the building of Funnel Gorgeous
What if God never left—even when you did?
In this raw and redemptive episode, I sit down with Julie Chenell, co-founder of Funnel Gorgeous, to talk about the real story behind the funnels, the faith, and the fire.
We go far beyond business into the depths of postpartum depression, divorce, church trauma, spiritual deconstruction, and how God pursued Julie even when she walked away. From building a multi-million-dollar business in survival mode to rebuilding her spiritual foundation through logic, AI, and grace—this conversation is everything.
If you’ve ever wrestled with whether your story is still usable… you need this episode.
💡 For the Listener Who’s...
- A Christian creator feeling stuck between calling and chaos
- Deconstructing faith, rebuilding hope, and craving something real
- Trying to lead, build, or parent while healing quietly behind the scenes
- Wondering if their past disqualifies their purpose
This is your permission to be in process—and still be powerful.
🔍 Topics We Explore:
- The pressure of building a business during trauma
- Why Julie refused alimony and support—and what God did instead
- When success and spiritual disconnection collide
- How AI helped Julie rediscover Jesus (seriously)
- Breaking cycles of people-pleasing and burnout
- Reconciling faith with intellect and healing
- Why shame doesn’t get the last word in your story
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Transcript
Welcome to Online Business for Christian Creatives, the show that helps you build a business that honors God, fuels your creativity, and actually pays the bills.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Jim Burgoon, leadership coach, Faith first, entrepreneur, and a guy who's made just about every mistake so you don't have to.
Speaker A:Let's get into it.
Speaker A: since I think we first met in: Speaker A:Julie, welcome to the show.
Speaker B:Thanks for having me.
Speaker B:Happy to be here.
Speaker A:So if you'll do the next 60 to 90 seconds and just let people know who you are and what you do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm a business coach and also the co founder of Funnel Gorgeous, which is a marketing education and software company for creative bootstrapping entrepreneurs who need both the education and the tech to get them where they need to go.
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker B:So I run that company.
Speaker B:I'm also a private business coach, a webinar expert, and just dabble in all things online marketing.
Speaker A:So to, to get this kicked off, because I think in this conversation I want to go three different places.
Speaker A:First and foremost, I want to know your rise.
Speaker A:Because Funnel Gorgeous is an incredible suite.
Speaker A:It's an incredible thing that, that has been developed.
Speaker A:I want to go to your faith because this is a Christian based podcast.
Speaker A:So I do want to connect to that.
Speaker A:And then I want to go and how this all your life all kind of goes together to create the success that you have through the ups and downs and all that stuff.
Speaker A:With that being said, let me start with this.
Speaker A:Where was the brainchild for Funnel Gorgeous and you even getting into Funnels in general?
Speaker A:Like, where did that come from?
Speaker B:Yeah, I actually fell into almost all of my success accidentally.
Speaker B:There was no like grand plan, business plan or anything like that.
Speaker B:I was born out of crisis, out of failure, all that good stuff.
Speaker B:So I was a writer and a blogger because I was struggling with very severe postpartum depression after the birth of my third child.
Speaker B:She was really sick.
Speaker B:I had three children, three and under, stay at home mom, losing my mind, trying to just stay above board.
Speaker B:So I took to the Internet to write and I found out that I was good at this and I started to amass an audience and that was like my very first, like toe dipping into, oh, wow, there's this whole world where I can connect with people and when you run a blog, you invariably have to learn tech.
Speaker B:So I started to learn all about WordPress and how WordPress works.
Speaker B:And so I was gathering the tech skills, so I had to copy and I had tech.
Speaker B: And then somewhere in: Speaker B:I was like, man, I gotta figure this out.
Speaker B:I stumbled upon Russell Brunson, who had his Facebook ads with his whiteboard, and he's scribbling and he's talking about funnels.
Speaker B:And I quickly realized that the skill of copy and tech and design, which is what I was doing with blogs, could easily be translated onto a funnel.
Speaker B:And I was like, man, people are making lots of money with these things.
Speaker B:So that's how I fell into it.
Speaker B:I started building funnels for other people and charging ridiculous amounts of money, like tiny amounts of money.
Speaker B:People I was charging 5,000, people were making 300,000.
Speaker B:And I one day I thought, I really, I need to build this funnel for myself.
Speaker B:Like, what could I sell that I could build a funnel for?
Speaker B:And so that was really when the switch flipped and I went from grinding it out as a service provider, as a funnel builder, and I became this creator, course creator, and I went from 10k months to 100k months in about 90 days.
Speaker A:Wow, that's.
Speaker A:That's incredible.
Speaker A:And so far the story is like, really?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:And what really stuck out to me, what I want to hit for a second, you were dealing with postpartum and your natural progression of thought was, I'm going to write now, were you starting to write as a way to just get.
Speaker A:Navigate your thoughts, your feelings, or was it the entrepreneurial, I'm going to be a writer to do something with it.
Speaker A:Unpack that a little bit for me?
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I was writing just purely for survival.
Speaker B:I was writing about my children.
Speaker B:I was writing about my experience as a mother.
Speaker B:I was writing about my faith.
Speaker B:I was not writing to monetize anything.
Speaker B:Now when my youngest at the time went to kindergarten, I knew that I had to start doing something to make some money.
Speaker B:I was always doing side gigs, teaching piano lessons, helping people with their computers, stuff like that.
Speaker B:I thought, my blog is doing well.
Speaker B:I wonder if I can get some ads, some Google Ads on my blog.
Speaker B:And then I was like, I wonder if I could write SEO articles on Odesk or, or Text Broker or those kinds of things.
Speaker B:And so I, I started, I continued to write on my blog just for the sake of writing, and then I used my writing skills.
Speaker B:And there was a time there where I was writing 500 word articles for $25 an article and I was writing like 20 of them a week for optimized for SEO keywords.
Speaker B:And I was like, look, I.
Speaker B:I made the grocery budget.
Speaker A:So then what point did you say, I'm worth more than this?
Speaker B: ure because I got divorced in: Speaker B: was writing as a blogger from: Speaker B:I was just making side hustle money, vacation money.
Speaker B: And when we got divorced in: Speaker B:So I waived my right to alimony, I waived my right to child support.
Speaker B:And I said, I just need you to take care of the kids during the week and give me a year and I'm going to figure this out.
Speaker B:And so it was in that year that I, my three kids were with him during the week, with me on the weekends, and I began building a business.
Speaker B:And it was that fire, that pressure of I've got to be able to make it so that I can not just make money for me to live, but I can make enough money that I can have my kids in my home.
Speaker B:Because I had to move out of a really nice town and I moved into an apartment in the armpit of Connecticut and had to take a major step down in status.
Speaker B:But I didn't, it didn't make sense to me to have my ex husband pay alimony and child support.
Speaker B:It would have financially wrecked him.
Speaker B:He wouldn't have been able to live.
Speaker B:And so I remember, I'll never forget, the judge took his glasses off and I was standing before him, he's, are you sure you want to do this?
Speaker B:I was like, yes.
Speaker B:And so I did.
Speaker B:And I think ultimately God honored it and I became far wealthier by doing it myself than asking my husband, who couldn't afford it, to support me.
Speaker A:So at what point, like, what kept you going?
Speaker A:Was it just the fire of I have to get this done versus because you're in the middle of a divorce or post divorce, you have the three kids, you had the post apartum depression.
Speaker A:Like all of these things were stacking.
Speaker A:Like, what kept you going?
Speaker B:I also got pregnant.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:So, yeah, even more to the midst of all of this.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was a really, it was a really stressful time.
Speaker B:Like, I look back, I'm like, I'm not really sure how I did it.
Speaker B:I got pregnant right as I was getting divorced and it was a very big failure on my part.
Speaker B:Although I have a little boy that I love dearly, so it's hard to call it a failure, but.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah, I Got pregnant.
Speaker B:And so I had two things going on.
Speaker B:I had a new baby that was coming that I absolutely could not figure out how I was going to work, support that child in daycare.
Speaker B:I had to have a work from home job.
Speaker B:My three older kids, I wasn't taken care of full time.
Speaker B:And to go from being a stay at home mom to seeing your kids on the weekend was traumatic at a level that is really hard to describe.
Speaker B:And I think I was just in survival mode.
Speaker B:But I remember crying every Sunday night when they would go back to be with their dad.
Speaker B:And I was living in this not safe part of town and I was pregnant and I felt like a failure because it was my fault that I was pregnant.
Speaker B:Like it was not fully, but almost fully my fault.
Speaker B:And I felt like I had failed the marriage and I was watching it all come crashing down.
Speaker B:And the only thing I knew to do was just to put my head down and work as hard and as fast as I could.
Speaker B:And I think that crisis and pressure creates an environment for growth that success never will.
Speaker B:And it was a unique period of time in my life.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's an incredible story so far.
Speaker A:And I know you're, you have so much more to the levels to this story.
Speaker A:And so here's what comes up to my mind because you being in a highly successful entrepreneur and this podcast being for entrepreneurs, like, how did you navigate.
Speaker A:So you're in survival mode.
Speaker A:How did you navigate this?
Speaker A:Trying not to burn out with all of this and trying not to live in a place of just absolute desperation while still trying to build abundance.
Speaker A:Like how was the balance of that for you?
Speaker B:It was completely unbalanced.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I would say for the nine months of my pregnancy, I.
Speaker B:And I was pregnant by, with somebody else.
Speaker B:It was not a, it was not a nice scene.
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker B:I had just figured finalized that we were going to get divorced.
Speaker B: der had just become an app in: Speaker B:I grew up in a Christian home, I married my high school sweetheart and I was with one person my entire life now.
Speaker B:I was 34 years old, it was 16 years later and someone's downloading this app.
Speaker B:How bad could it be?
Speaker B:Completely like oblivious as a 34 year old woman entering the dating scene.
Speaker B:And I got myself in a sticky situation and I got pregnant and I panicked a little bit.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Because I didn't want to have an abortion.
Speaker B:And I also didn't really feel qualified.
Speaker B:So I decided to get a job at a college for the pregnancy just for the health insurance.
Speaker B:And so I would wake up, I would go to work, I would come home, I'd take like a two hour nap and then I'd wake up around 5pm and I'd work 5pm to 11pm on my business.
Speaker B:And I held both of those jobs, both my freelance job and my college job for nine months.
Speaker B:Nearly killed myself doing it because I was pregnant.
Speaker B:And but once the baby was born, that's when I decided that I was gonna just go all in on my business.
Speaker B:But had I not done that for a year, like double dipping, I don't know that I would have been able to pull it off.
Speaker B:So it was like a short period of time of just nose down, working 80 hours a week because I didn't have my kids during the week.
Speaker B:And so I thought, I'm just gonna make money as fast as I can.
Speaker A:So during this time too now you're, you're going through all of this, you're double dipping, you're pregnant, you've got like this massive amount of things happening all at once.
Speaker A:And if I'm, if I read the article, like I read, been following you for a long time.
Speaker A:I read your articles, I read your blogs, I listen to your podcast.
Speaker A: of the articles said in like: Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So now you have all of this, the chaos and the crazy, and now you're deconstructing faith.
Speaker A:So walk me through some of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the deconstruction actually happened, started to happen a little bit before I got divorced.
Speaker B:I think that my divorce and my faith deconstruction were kind of symptoms of the same problem.
Speaker B:Like I had grown up in this environment.
Speaker B:I was in a church, I was a pastor, I was a youth leader, I was a worship leader.
Speaker B:I had a really pretty big fall from grace when I turned 30 just to terrible adoptive reunion with my biological father that went really dark.
Speaker B:The church was not very supportive of me during that time.
Speaker B:My husband and I, that was one of the main reasons we ended up getting divorced was because of all of that.
Speaker B:And I just felt alone.
Speaker B: And so we left the church in: Speaker B:And then when I got divorced, all of my friends, my church friends, my Bible study group, like, it just all dissolved.
Speaker B: And so I would say for from: Speaker B:I didn't want anything to do with church.
Speaker B:I still listened to worship music.
Speaker B:I stopped praying.
Speaker B:But what happened?
Speaker B:I continued to drift and I felt less and less connected to Christians and church.
Speaker B:And then as soon as, like, the political climate started to change and I really didn't relate to Donald Trump and, like, the Christian M.O.
Speaker B:then I started deconstructing even further.
Speaker B:I'm like.
Speaker B:And then I went.
Speaker B:And that's when the existential dread.
Speaker B:I was also neck deep in a second marriage that was abusive.
Speaker B:And so that's when, like, every, like all the wheels fell off the train.
Speaker B:And it was terrifying.
Speaker B:And I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Speaker A:So then.
Speaker A:So second marriage is now you're deconstructing, you're leaving the childhood version of your faith?
Speaker A:Because I do want to make mention and honor you.
Speaker A:Because the faith I see coming from you now is very rich and it's very deep in what.
Speaker A:Because even watching a webinar, how you set your chat GPT up according to your Bible study, I actually set mine up the same way.
Speaker A:I was like, that is brilliant.
Speaker A:So, like, I am.
Speaker A:I see the transitions.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're now deconstructed.
Speaker A:Walking away a lot of hurt from the church.
Speaker A:This stuff.
Speaker A:Second marriage, it still just blows my mind.
Speaker A:You still kept going, what was that inside?
Speaker A:Like, you just have this I'm never going to give up thing.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think.
Speaker B:I think I'm a firstborn daughter, so I have a very strong sense of responsibility.
Speaker B:Like, I just gotta keep going.
Speaker B:My kids used to watch Thomas the Tank Engine.
Speaker B:I was a really useful engine.
Speaker B:Just I think some of my identity is built on, like, being useful.
Speaker B:And I had now four children.
Speaker B:I felt like I couldn't depend on anybody.
Speaker B:And so it's funny that the 12 years that I was basically in the wilderness with God also happened to be the 12 years when I saw extraordinary financial success.
Speaker B:And that's weird to me.
Speaker B:And I haven't really unpacked that, like, on my blog yet.
Speaker B:I plan to, but I was financially getting richer and spiritually getting debtor and debtor in those 12 years.
Speaker B:And yet God used and is using my financial wealth for good.
Speaker B:But I think it was just, I had to keep going because I had so many freaking kids that needed me.
Speaker B:I think that was really the drive that was pushing me was just get a house.
Speaker B: And then in: Speaker B:And then it's okay.
Speaker B:Now you got to get the college fund.
Speaker B:Because I was broke as a young Mom.
Speaker B:Like, my husband and I at the time, we didn't have any money.
Speaker B:Get the college fund.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Got the college fund.
Speaker B:Okay, now.
Speaker B:Stack cash.
Speaker B:Okay, now.
Speaker B:And I just.
Speaker B:I just kept going.
Speaker B:Like, it was like my engine didn't know how to stop.
Speaker A:So then what does, like, emotional care or mental health care for you look like?
Speaker A:Because that takes a toll.
Speaker B:And it did.
Speaker B:And it all eventually caught up to me.
Speaker B:And I proceeded to have some of the darkest mental, emotional years of my life.
Speaker B:It was like I didn't learn my lesson.
Speaker B: around the mountain again in: Speaker B:Instead of getting healed and turning towards God and asking him, I, like, dug myself a bigger hole.
Speaker B:And it was all this, like, crisis and survival instinct that kicked in.
Speaker B: rashing down a second time in: Speaker B:And that was.
Speaker B:And I had so much existential dread and burnout and fatigue.
Speaker B:And I would say it was probably two and a half years.
Speaker B:It's been the last six months that I feel like I'm finally on solid ground again.
Speaker B:It was about two and a half years of just darkness and a lot of wrestling.
Speaker A:So then this brings up a question, because I want to honor your journey, because your journey is incredible.
Speaker A:Like, my gosh, I'm like, I'm definitely just inspired by what you've been through, what you're going through to build what you've been building.
Speaker A:So then I asked the question, because now you're at a good place.
Speaker A:What patterns did you see were the most prevalent that you had a break to get to where you are today?
Speaker B:Yes, a lot that I'm still breaking.
Speaker B:I think people pleasing was a really big problem for me.
Speaker B:So that is something that I've had to break this addiction to, being useful at the expense of my mental health.
Speaker B:I had to break boundaries.
Speaker B:I had to learn boundaries.
Speaker B:And I also had a tremendous lack of self trust, which is ironic to say, because lots of people trust me, but I was not trusting myself.
Speaker B:And some of that was due to the abuse that I was going through.
Speaker B:And so I had to break all of those patterns.
Speaker B:And I also had to reconcile with the existential dread.
Speaker B:Like, I was fighting so hard with that dread about the afterlife and God, and it was terrorizing me.
Speaker B:I was in therapy.
Speaker B:I was like, this is.
Speaker B:I can't sleep.
Speaker B:This is frightening me.
Speaker B:And yeah, and so that it just had to stop.
Speaker B:I had to stop and I had to deal with it.
Speaker A:So then this brings up two questions, one for the benefit of.
Speaker A:My wife listens to my podcast, which is great.
Speaker A:So at least I know I have one listener.
Speaker A:And my wife deals with some of that, the existential dread and things like that, because she grew up in an abusive house and just different things.
Speaker A:What was one thing you said that you did that really helped you through some of that?
Speaker B:Yeah, I.
Speaker B:So I don't think that I ever stopped believing that there was a God.
Speaker B:So I think if that is someone's issue, I'd have to sit with that because I think that, I think part of the existential dread was that I knew that there was a higher creative power and I felt so unworthy.
Speaker B:That's where my existential dread was coming from.
Speaker B:And I, I just, I was worried that like I had believed something about who Jesus was that wasn't true.
Speaker B:So for me, it was a combination of prayer.
Speaker B:There were several instances where people came to me and said, God put you on my heart.
Speaker B:So it felt like these kind of weird God moments where they were popping into my life and I didn't ask for it.
Speaker B:And then it was logic, because I had so much of my young faith, my intellect and my logic weren't really valued in the church.
Speaker B:It was faith based.
Speaker B:And I remember when miracles wouldn't happen and I'd be like, I'd be asking hard questions and people didn't like those hard questions.
Speaker B:And so I actually started using AI to, to ask all these logical questions about the resurrection and about who Jesus said he was.
Speaker B:Inerrancy of Scripture and.
Speaker B:And I decided to basically ask it to give me a report on why Jesus is the Messiah and then give me a report on why he's not.
Speaker B:And I was so afraid to do this because I thought I'm in such a fragile place if I read this could just hit me right over the edge.
Speaker B:And it was through this wrestling that I did this.
Speaker B:And I came to the conclusion that the only truly logical answer for all of this is that Jesus did in fact rise from the dead.
Speaker B:And I told people, I said, I don't care.
Speaker B:Any other theology, I don't know, I haven't figured out yet because I deconstructed everything.
Speaker B:But what I do know is Jesus rose from the dead.
Speaker B:And so I'm going to start there and that is going to be my bullseye.
Speaker B:And then I'm going to.
Speaker B:And then I'm Going to balloon out from there.
Speaker B:And as soon as I said that and spoke that, it was like, it was crazy what happened to me next, because then it was like scripture was popping off the page.
Speaker B:I had been reading about Judaism.
Speaker B:I started having these crazy dreams, like, more weird God moments.
Speaker B:It was just.
Speaker B:It was unbelievable.
Speaker A:I can definitely say even in scripture, Paul talks a lot about saying, hey, all I want to do is talk about Christ and him crucified, you know, and resurrect it.
Speaker A:And I think we need to get back to that.
Speaker A:So I really am very connected to that message and your comments about the intellectualism.
Speaker A:I faced some of that recently where we actually had to leave the church.
Speaker A:I was shunned because my mom and my sister were dying of cancer six months apart.
Speaker A:And I was trying to really work through this.
Speaker A:And I had a couple of the church prophets or Violet went to a little bit more of a charismatic church, say actually to me and shame me for it.
Speaker A:Why do you have to intellectualize everything?
Speaker A:And I was like, that's not what I'm doing.
Speaker A:I'm trying to literally try to figure this out.
Speaker A:And it's a logical basis here with an emotional component.
Speaker A:And so we ended up leaving that particular church because of that.
Speaker A:So my heart does go out for that, because I think we devalue intellect, and I think we need to value it more.
Speaker A:This comes back now, coming full circle.
Speaker A:How did you define success previously versus how did you define the success now?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's really easy for multimillionaire Julie to look back and be like, that version of success that you had over there wasn't the real version.
Speaker B:And this version of you that can read your Bible every morning and take long walks and stuff is the version of success.
Speaker B:I've learned not to do that to myself.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B: t ever want to go back to the: Speaker B:And I think for her success was, is there a roof over my head for my kids?
Speaker B:Do I have my college fund?
Speaker B:All of those things.
Speaker B:And I think those things were good and needed, and God used them, and he was clearly with me the entire time.
Speaker B:The version of success that I carry today is far different because having gone through the deconstruction, I will happily trade everything.
Speaker B:As long as I do not have to feel the terror of not knowing what this life is about or where I'm going, I would trade everything for it.
Speaker B:And as long as I hold onto that confidence, like I can face anything, it doesn't matter.
Speaker A:I Love that.
Speaker A:So then what comes next for you?
Speaker A:What's on the horizon for Julie?
Speaker B:Yeah, so funny.
Speaker B:I'm looking over my whiteboard because I was trying to do this exercise on asking people for help and I was reading a book and she says, people can't help you if you don't know what to ask for.
Speaker B:And I was like, what is it that I want?
Speaker B:What is it that I need?
Speaker B:And the only things on my whiteboard now have to do with animals and garden projects.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I have a large community that I nurture and steward and I can and I plan to continue to do that.
Speaker B:Obviously the funnel gorgeous community is near and dear to my heart.
Speaker B:I don't know what my next step is.
Speaker B:I am just taking it one day at a time.
Speaker B:I feel very content in my professional work.
Speaker B:I have a lot of spiritual catching up to do that I'm looking forward to doing.
Speaker B:I think there might be something God wants me to do, but I don't know what it looks like yet.
Speaker B:And so I'm just waiting and that's.
Speaker A:A beautiful place to be.
Speaker A:So as we learn, land this plane of this episode, what we spoke about doing the wisdom bomb and my.
Speaker A:And for you guys who are the listeners full well that I do a wisdom bomb every episode where we just say a portable truth that somebody can say put there in their back pocket and take it with them.
Speaker A:So what would be a wisdom bomb that you would give to the audience listening?
Speaker B:Yeah, I always want to ask a question in response.
Speaker B:Who listens?
Speaker B:Where are.
Speaker B:Where is your audience today?
Speaker B:Because I have a lot of things I could share, but so my audience.
Speaker A:Are Christian, basically multi, passionate Christian creatives in the entrepreneur space.
Speaker A:And they're in the beginning stages of their journey is who I really want to reach and help them get past the hurdles and get past the uncertainty and the indecisions and stuff, find their faith and build what God's put in their life.
Speaker B:I think what is really evident in my story is, is that God had me the entire time.
Speaker B:And I can look at all the years, whether I was had my face towards him or I didn't.
Speaker B:And he had me.
Speaker B:And he can win with a pair of twos.
Speaker B:Like anything that comes into your life that is hard or bad or a result of sin or failure.
Speaker B:He can 100% use for his glory.
Speaker B:So much so that you might start to think, did God cause that because of how much he uses those things?
Speaker B:And I can think about some of the worst sin that I have done.
Speaker B:He has used to draw me back to himself.
Speaker B:And you could look at it and go, gosh, did God sponsor that?
Speaker B:That sin?
Speaker B:No, of course not.
Speaker B:But that's how good he is at redemption.
Speaker B:And I have no sense that I have done any of this, that he has done all of it through me and has taken my failures.
Speaker B:And so that is a deep encouragement to me because it means that we cannot be snatched from his hand, no matter how dark it gets.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:We can't be snatched.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:That should be a T shirt.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:And he wins with a pair of twos.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Thank you for that.
Speaker A:So with that all being said, how do we find you?
Speaker B:If somebody wants to connect, you can.
Speaker B:Yeah, you can find me@funnelgorgeous.com.
Speaker B:that is the marketing and education company.
Speaker B:You can head over to my website@julieschannel.com that has all my coaching and stuff.
Speaker B:Or you can come find me on my podcast called Million Dollar Grit.
Speaker A:And for you, the listener, thank you so much for listening and getting this far in the episode.
Speaker A:We will have every bit of that in the show notes to make it easier for you to just click and head on over there.
Speaker A:And I highly do encourage and recommend that you do connect with Julie.
Speaker A:And, Julie, thank you so much for this episode, having this conversation, it's been very rich, and I really, deeply appreciate you.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker B:Thanks for having me.
Speaker A:Sa.
