Your Voice Isn’t Too Much—It’s Your Weapon with Molly Trotter Gomez
🎯 In This Episode with Molly Trotter-Gomez, You’ll Discover:
- What it takes to walk away from a toxic career to protect your character
- How to break free from performance-based identity and people-pleasing
- Why your voice and story matter in building God’s Kingdom
📝 Episode Summary
What would you do if your job asked you to compromise your faith?
Molly Trotter-Gomez didn’t just walk away—she stood her ground, got fired, and never looked back. In this episode, Jim dives deep into Molly’s journey from news anchor to Christian entrepreneur, revealing the internal battles, faith revelations, and painful growth that led her to build Kingdom Alliance—a biblically-based business community for leaders and change-makers.
If you've ever wrestled with your identity, doubted your voice, or questioned if you're “too much”—this episode will hit home.
👋 About Our Guest
Molly Trotter-Gomez is the Director of Field Development at Kingdom Alliance and a former TV news anchor turned faith-led entrepreneur. She now empowers others to discover their voice, own their story, and build purpose-driven businesses rooted in biblical principles.
💡 Key Insights from Molly
- You’re Not Too Much – What others call “too much” is often your greatest gift.
- Obedience over Outcome – How Molly's early morning prayer routine transformed her clarity and business.
- Your Voice Has Value – Silence steals God's glory. Your testimony matters more than your insecurity.
Connect with Molly Trotter-Gomez:
Facebook Group: Molly's Facebook group
Facebook Page: Molly's Facebook page
✝️ Faith Connection
This episode shows how obedience, even when inconvenient, unlocks favor. Molly’s 2AM secret place became her launchpad. When you truly trust God with your identity, you don’t have to chase validation—you just walk in calling.
🎨 Multipassionate Application
Molly’s story reminds creatives: you don’t have to choose between being powerful and faith-filled. Her ability to integrate digital marketing, leadership, and ministry is a model for how multipassionates can thrive by aligning everything under purpose.
💪 Resilience Corner
Molly’s breaking moments weren’t setbacks—they were setups. This episode is a masterclass in learning how to let go of perfection and control so that real growth can happen.
🧠 Leadership Insight
Molly’s journey illustrates how real leadership starts with conviction. If your people can’t trust your yes and your no, they can’t follow your vision.
❓ Reflection Question
Where are you still fighting for your limitations instead of your possibilities?
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Transcript
Welcome to Grace and the Grind, the podcast where we dive deep into the journeys of heart centered and purpose driven leaders and entrepreneurs.
Speaker A:We're here to equip and encourage you on your journey.
Speaker A:So let's get started and find the grace within the grind.
Speaker A:This is Grace in the Grind.
Speaker A:And now your host, Jim Burgoon.
Speaker B:Welcome to Grace in the Grind where we're here to tell the inspiring stories behind some of the most successful entrepreneurs.
Speaker B:And today we have a new friend to the show, Molly.
Speaker B:Welcome to the show.
Speaker C:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker C:I'm excited to be here.
Speaker B:So for the audience, take about the next 60 to 90 seconds and let us know who you are and what you do.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker C:First of all, I love that you said 60 to 90 because that's my kind of intro.
Speaker C:Like just boom, just right short, sweet, to the point, long story short, as I always like to say.
Speaker C:I was a former news anchor and reporter.
Speaker C:I got into that to really tell people stories.
Speaker C:I love being able to just give people a voice if you can.
Speaker C:That's always been something I've loved to do.
Speaker C:Then I realized it was very toxic and I said get me out of here.
Speaker C:So I was in there for about five years.
Speaker C:I learned a ton.
Speaker C:I was on the anchor desk in the field, sports, weather, wrote, shoot, edited my own story.
Speaker C:So there is so much that I got from it and talk about 60 to 90 seconds.
Speaker C:I had to get an entire day's like story and put it down into 15, 30, 60 seconds.
Speaker C:So very much used to that.
Speaker C:But that led me on to after I got out of the news, I ended up actually getting fired because I wouldn't basically do all the things they wanted me to do, which some were just not.
Speaker C:I was not willing to, yeah, go down that route.
Speaker C:So anyways, I got into entrepreneurship, dove into network marketing just to get my my feet wet and got into digital marketing after that and really started to help coaches build and scale businesses and my brother's brother in law's digital marketing agency until I realized I have a skillset people need and if people could be more effective communicator, their business can skyrocket.
Speaker C:There's a lot of people that are great at business but when it comes to speaking it's like they're terrified sharing their own story.
Speaker C:They're terr.
Speaker C:So I loved doing that for a number of years and leading me to where I am today and you can see it on the screen if you're watching.
Speaker C:I'm the field director of field development For Kingdom alliance and what Kingdom alliance is, it is a community where you can build a lifestyle around things that matter most.
Speaker C:We have personal professional development resources, all biblically based.
Speaker C:We have an incredible travel pillar that allows people to travel around the world at wholesale prices.
Speaker C:So in three words, I like to say our community really helps people, um, become equipped, if they choose, to really be able to steward and to disciple.
Speaker C:And you can go out to the nations if you choose.
Speaker C:And there's also an earning component, as it is a network marketing opportunity.
Speaker C:And that's a whole story in and of itself of God saying, we're going to redeem and restore the profession.
Speaker C:And it starts with leadership.
Speaker C:And that is a big piece to what our company is about.
Speaker C:So that is a little bit of my story.
Speaker C:I'm married.
Speaker C:I live in Southern California.
Speaker C:My husband and I have been married for five years.
Speaker C:No kids yet, but we're both entrepreneurs, so our businesses are babies at the moment.
Speaker C:And we just pour everything we can into that.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:Thank you for sharing.
Speaker B:That's a.
Speaker B:We have a lot to unpack here because.
Speaker B:And congratulations on making you five years with your husband.
Speaker B:That is, that's an amazing feat.
Speaker B:So they say with the five years itch once after five years and maybe seven, you're done, you're good, you're good to golden for the rest of your life.
Speaker B:So I love it.
Speaker C:I'm here for it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Same.
Speaker B:I think we're on the second half of that.
Speaker B:We're on the 50 year package.
Speaker B:We're 25 in.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:So let me dive into the news anchor stuff first because there's a lot there.
Speaker B:And especially you were saying you were in a toxic environment and you've got all of these things and you were fired because you're not willing to do something.
Speaker B:It takes a lot of integrity.
Speaker B:So let's start with this.
Speaker B:Let's start integrity first and move back into the toxicity.
Speaker B:Where did you develop the confidence and the integrity to stand up to that and be like, I don't care about my job, I care more about this, that character?
Speaker C:That is a great question.
Speaker C:I'm very grateful that my parents really brought me up in a Christian household.
Speaker C:I went to private school first through eighth grade, grew up in the church.
Speaker C:So I was surrounded by great people most of the time.
Speaker C:Can't be perfect.
Speaker C:And then I also felt at a very young age that I knew God was going to use me in a way.
Speaker C:I actually remember at 7 years old in church, God, basically, I heard this audible voice saying, Are you ready?
Speaker C:And it was him saying, are you ready to jump into leadership?
Speaker C:And I'm seven.
Speaker C:And I'm like, no, Lord, I am not ready.
Speaker C:And I ran away.
Speaker C:I ran off.
Speaker C:I'm thinking that you can hide from God at seven and you really can't.
Speaker C:But the beautiful part is he pursued me ever since and at 27, stepped into that.
Speaker C:And that's another part of, I'm sure the story will dive into.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I just knew that there was something deeper.
Speaker C:And I always was just like, okay, how can I be a person of excellence, somebody of value?
Speaker C:And I definitely grew up in a house where performance mindset was heavily ingrained.
Speaker C:Call that a good or bad thing, it depends on how you look at it.
Speaker C:But I just always knew that I wasn't going to give up my integrity just to make the story, have a few more viewers watch it.
Speaker C:And it just wasn't worth it because that's my brand, that's my reputation at the end of the day, even though I'm a part of that station.
Speaker C:And they would do it time and time again or even put me in harm's way.
Speaker C:I remember there were times that there would be murderers on the loose and I would be by myself, no cameraman.
Speaker C:I'm in my mid-20s and all I have is a tripod to swing at somebody.
Speaker C:If somebody comes at me, trying to hurt me, and they're like, you have to go get the story.
Speaker C:And I remember one time I told my news director, I said, absolutely not.
Speaker C:And at that moment, I know in his mind he wanted to probably let me go.
Speaker C:And I was like, you were going to basically put me out there as like a sacrificial lamb for a story.
Speaker C:Are you serious?
Speaker C:I said no.
Speaker C:And then eventually, yeah, you're right, maybe not.
Speaker C:Human lives to them just were dispensable and just their integrity was dispensable.
Speaker C:And it just wasn't for me.
Speaker B:That blows my mind, the dispensability of human life.
Speaker B:So then that brings into the toxicity question.
Speaker B:And yes, we will unpack the 20 year running spree and as well as the performance mindset thing, because that brings up a whole other list of questions.
Speaker B:But before we do that, let's jump into the toxicity because a lot of times our environments, if we're not careful, get on the inside of us.
Speaker B:How did you protect not becoming the environment you were in?
Speaker C:That is a really great question.
Speaker C:I was very, like, I was always very choosy on who I listened to and who I let in, especially towards the end, like, when I really started to step up to the My bosses, and I was like, no, like, I'm not going to do this.
Speaker C:I even had to ask myself, like, where did that come from?
Speaker C:Because I didn't, like, necessarily grow up in that environment.
Speaker C:Be quiet, do what you need to do.
Speaker C:But there were always moments where I just was like, no, I'm my own person.
Speaker C:I'm going to do what I want to do.
Speaker C:Call that pride, call that ego.
Speaker C:But at the end of the day, like, this is who I am, and I have to know what I stand on.
Speaker C:And being a believer, primarily my entire life, it was just not something it was worth risking, because what if they fired me and then I have to go somewhere else and start all over?
Speaker C:Else?
Speaker C:All for what?
Speaker C:So I really was choosing on who I listened to, because the old adage, listen to the people who have what you want.
Speaker C:And there was very few people throughout, as I've been just growing in my life that had what I really wanted.
Speaker C:And it wasn't just money.
Speaker C:It wasn't positioning sessions.
Speaker C:It was internal.
Speaker C:It was how they thought, what they think, and their values.
Speaker C:And a lot of people really just actually don't care about values, which is wild to me.
Speaker C:They're willing to be flexible on that just to make a buck, and that just.
Speaker C:No, I.
Speaker C:I was never that person.
Speaker B:Yeah, I appreciate that, because I'm like that, too.
Speaker B:I will not never sacrifice for character, because that's.
Speaker B:I gotta live with myself.
Speaker B:Like, y'all live however you sleep.
Speaker B:I have to live with myself.
Speaker B:So this brings up some really interesting conversation pieces because you said call it pride or ego versus standing on principle.
Speaker B:So at what point were you feeling like you were more prideful?
Speaker B:Arrogant versus I'm standing on the principles that were developed in me.
Speaker B:Like, where is that shift?
Speaker C:I would say probably so.
Speaker C:I'm 35 now.
Speaker C:I would say the pride and ego definitely covered up insecurities and hurt.
Speaker C:And I'm nervous and I'm scared.
Speaker C:So I just had this really tough exterior.
Speaker C:I would describe.
Speaker C:I describe it to my mom back in the day.
Speaker C:I was like a turtle shell.
Speaker C:Like, I'm super hard on the outside because it's so soft and tender on the inside that I will protect it at all costs.
Speaker C:And, excuse me, my turtle shell was super thick, but it was just because I was scared, and I was like, I don't really know what's going to happen next.
Speaker C:So my bark was definitely worse than my bite, for sure.
Speaker C:But it probably wasn't until maybe Five or six years ago.
Speaker C:Five or six years ago, to be really honest, that God really got a hold of me, like, hey, we need to work on this.
Speaker C:Like, you are safe, you're in a different environment, you're with me, you're fully submitted to me.
Speaker C:And I was, I would say I was a believer my whole life.
Speaker C:I was baptized when I was seven the first time, however, relief, fully submitted not having one toe in, one toe out, but Lord, like my life is yours.
Speaker C:Not saying I'm perfect, but it's yours and I'll be, I'm going to be obedient.
Speaker C:Really.
Speaker C:Five, six years ago is when I really stepped into that more.
Speaker C:And so then it shifted to principles of not just what I think is right, but who does God say that I am and how can I be more Christlike in my actions?
Speaker C:So went from pride, ego to actually Lord, and I would pray this, Lord, show me how you see them.
Speaker C:Then I would start to see their insecurities.
Speaker C:They're like, oh, you know what, we need to get her to lie about this or to do that because my job is on the line if we don't make this juicy enough.
Speaker C:Like he would get me to see other things in other perspectives that really weren't in the physical.
Speaker C:Kind of more spiritual.
Speaker C:So that knowing.
Speaker C:And that was a huge shift for me.
Speaker B:So then this brings up the great.
Speaker B:An interesting question.
Speaker B:So you're 35 and you said about five or six years ago.
Speaker B:So that's put you at about 29 to 30.
Speaker B:And you at the opening of this interview, you just said, I stopped running from God at 27.
Speaker B:So 20 years.
Speaker B:Because you were seven when you ran from God, 27 when he finally caught you and you stopped.
Speaker B:So there's a two year process between when you stopped and said yes and now you're overcoming the ego, the pride, some of the insecurities and things like that.
Speaker B:And obviously it's a journey.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:We're going still in those process.
Speaker B:So what were those two years like as God was starting to break you of those things and was starting to mold you into who you are today?
Speaker C:Oh, this is good.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker C:I love.
Speaker C:Your questions are great.
Speaker C:It's like actually pulling things out that I don't think anybody's ever asked before or really looked into before.
Speaker C:So yeah, at seven I said, lord, I don't know what when you say go like dive into leadership.
Speaker C:I didn't know what that meant.
Speaker C:However, he kept putting me in leadership positions, student council, leading sports teams, whatever Everybody's, you're the leader, you're it.
Speaker C:So he was preparing me along the way.
Speaker C:But when I really stepped into it is when I got out of the news industry, jumped into entrepreneurship.
Speaker C:Now I'm doing things on my own and I'm trying to set up this life for myself.
Speaker C:And I don't have anybody in my family that has ever done that.
Speaker C:So a lot of that was the breaking and probably even went beyond the.
Speaker C:From 27 to 29 into my 30s, the breaking of you, like, think you're in control, but you're really not.
Speaker C:In entrepreneurship, you can ride the roller coaster and get wildly nauseous because you're riding it, or you can try to maintain, stabilize your emotions and your feelings and really trust discernment.
Speaker C:And that's one of the biggest lessons I learned.
Speaker C:So many people, including myself, I was led by emotions and feelings rather than discernment because on the back of my mind I'm like, yeah, God, okay, yeah, you know what you're doing, but I can do it better.
Speaker C:That's what he was breaking me.
Speaker C:Obviously you can't.
Speaker C:And entrepreneurship will break you in the best ways because it just does it.
Speaker C:It just doesn't like that.
Speaker C:But depending on how willing you are to let God show, reveal, and then heal those areas that really need to.
Speaker B:Be healed, yeah, entrepreneurship does definitely reveal and break things that you never knew you need broken.
Speaker B:So when God called me into that, I was like, wow, okay, Lord.
Speaker B:So this brings up an interesting thing because as I oftentimes joke and I say I'm a recovering perfectionist and because I dealt with a lot of insecurities.
Speaker B:You talked about the turtle shell and the harder the shell, the deeper the hide.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But it also links to the performance mentality you mentioned earlier.
Speaker B:So as somebody who grew up, I was a gifted ADHD kid, so I grew up performance good.
Speaker B:Anything else bad.
Speaker B:So there was that.
Speaker B:How did you make the shift from.
Speaker B:I judge my internal well being or who I am based on all the things I'm producing to it's okay to be who I am and I'm okay with that.
Speaker B:Like, where was the shift happening for you for that?
Speaker C:Gosh.
Speaker C: we started it back in June of: Speaker C:That's when I really had to.
Speaker C: eneur at that point since, so: Speaker C:There was a lot of breaking and molding into that.
Speaker C:But starting up this company, it was something that I've never seen done before helping, first of all, women, Christian women, money, mindset, growth, freedom, all these things.
Speaker C:And you're battling a lot of religious beliefs.
Speaker C:You're battling a lot of things.
Speaker C:And so there would be things that wouldn't move growth that wouldn't happen necessarily, like in the business that in other businesses would take off if I did this, that and the other thing.
Speaker C:But God, I'm doing a new thing.
Speaker C:So I would say with even like the last couple years, I would say maybe even within the last two to three years, he's really been able to highlight, hey, this is still a problem and you need to just love yourself wholly and it's not attached to the outcome.
Speaker C:Even though at the time I like a couple years ago, I would have people that I love dearly would speak, try to speak over and into me, and I would have to block it of like, I'm not accepting that as truth.
Speaker C:Because they're like, why don't you give up on this thing?
Speaker C:Once you go do something else?
Speaker C:Why don't you?
Speaker C:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:And I was like, I'm not asking this of you.
Speaker C:And I have to just have to shut.
Speaker C:I have to shut that off.
Speaker C:And so recovered people pleaser, right?
Speaker C:I love you and I care about you and what you say actually matters to me.
Speaker C:But you're trying to get me to walk away from what God's having me press into to start a new movement that he's wanting to do something big with.
Speaker C:So within the last couple years, I've really had to look deep and just really know my identity, my value, and who he says I am, nobody else.
Speaker C:And then truthfully, sometimes we still battle from time to.
Speaker C:I'm not gonna say we.
Speaker C:I still battle from time to time.
Speaker C:Of Here are the metrics that I put out that didn't produce the way that I thought it would.
Speaker C:But God is not linear.
Speaker C:It's not logical.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:He is the master of multiplication.
Speaker C:And so I've really, within the last year, I would say, have come to a piece of.
Speaker C:I have done all I can do.
Speaker C:It's up to Him.
Speaker C:And I hear in my spirit all the time because I'm just very clear of it's coming, it's coming different.
Speaker C:Whatever the it's coming is.
Speaker C:There's a lot of different things that are attached to that.
Speaker C:But that piece right there is so key because so many people miss that part.
Speaker C:And that really is the real gift, knowing you've done all you can do.
Speaker C:And he's going to fill in the rest and just keep being obedient to the next step, even if it doesn't make sense for whatever has happened in the past and how things used to add up.
Speaker B:So then now this brings up an interesting just thought for me.
Speaker B:So you're doing all of this.
Speaker B:So where.
Speaker B:How painful did it get in the breaking process of you trying to get a hold of your real identity versus the shell identity that you had to hide and just make everything pretty, make everything produce.
Speaker B:Now you're getting into this place of, I'm a child of God.
Speaker B:I've accepted that, I'm developing that and I'm.
Speaker B:I'm owning that.
Speaker B:How painful did it get for you in the transition to that?
Speaker B:And how did you not say, I quit?
Speaker C:Definitely did.
Speaker C:I said I quit many times.
Speaker C:However, I did not.
Speaker C:Words came out, but the actions didn't follow.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:So it just was like, I just can't do this anymore.
Speaker C:And honestly, there have been so many moments within the last two years of.
Speaker C:And I know this is a lot of people too.
Speaker C:I just can't do this anymore.
Speaker C:This is so hard.
Speaker C:I would say, when was it?
Speaker C: Maybe like: Speaker C:I started discovering the secret place, meaning my alone time with God.
Speaker C:I found my spot.
Speaker C:I can't do it in my house because there's so many different distractions.
Speaker C:So I found it in my car.
Speaker C:And anybody who's been following for a number of years, like, there she is, like, doing her quiet time in her car again.
Speaker C:And I developed this spot where I would get up.
Speaker C:Now I get up during the week.
Speaker C:I know this is going to sound crazy at 2am and between 2 and 3:45, I have my quiet time in the car before I go to the gym.
Speaker C:My quiet time for the first two years of that, maybe even three, was just me breaking, complaining, lord, I need wine.
Speaker C:And then maybe dive into scripture a little bit.
Speaker C:To be honest, most of the time when I look back on it, I was like, wow, how annoying was that?
Speaker C:And that's not how he responds.
Speaker C:But that was my response to myself until I got to this point where, like, God is such a gentleman, he is such a loving father.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:I am here.
Speaker C:And really developing that space was so important to get away from the noise.
Speaker C:And for me, early in the morning is my time because people are literally still sleeping and there's not a whole lot of movement and it's just me and him and it's quiet and it's peaceful and it's worth the sacrifice Of a little lack of sleep or going to bed early.
Speaker C:But it was painful.
Speaker C:There was a lot of breaking moments and a lot of lord, why?
Speaker C:Like, you've given me these big words and these promises, and don't get me wrong, not every morning was like a whine and complain.
Speaker C:Like, he would give me downloads and I have journals and journals of different words and things.
Speaker C:But it was painful because he would give you this big word and this big vision.
Speaker C:But then it's between that and then the process that it takes to get there, that obviously is the painful part.
Speaker C:And just releasing.
Speaker C:Okay, Lord, your timing is always greater, and we can say that over and over, but when we actually start to believe it.
Speaker C:For me, it took me a very long time because I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker C:Normally six months max, 12 months max.
Speaker C:And now it's been years and years.
Speaker C:However, it's developing that deeper faith and trust of knowing master's multiplication is coming and his word will never return void.
Speaker B:I love how you recognize, like, the difference between the entrepreneurial.
Speaker B:Yeah, we need it done in three months.
Speaker B:So, Lord, if you can get on that for me, that would be beautiful.
Speaker B:Versus, all right.
Speaker B:Your timetable, not mine.
Speaker B:I love the shift in that.
Speaker B:Which now brings up another question, because I know there are some of my listeners that really generally struggle with this.
Speaker B:How did you gain confidence that when you're like, when God speaks, I know it's him?
Speaker B:Because there's such a struggle in that depth of, was it God?
Speaker B:Was it not God?
Speaker B:And you know, as a Christian, we all deal with that on some level.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:But I do know there's particularly one or two of my audiences that have reached out to me before and said, hey, how do you this.
Speaker B:And the one of those has been, how are you so confident in hearing God?
Speaker B:So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, since this is what I'm hearing.
Speaker B:Is the confidence in the Lord in that?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:And I can't say it's going to be a perfect score that every time I think of here for him, that it is him.
Speaker C:But this is what I was.
Speaker C:This is the revelation he gave to me.
Speaker C:Align the voice that you just heard, align that with the fruits of the spirit.
Speaker C:And that is going to weed out pretty quickly.
Speaker C:For the most part.
Speaker C:It's not always a perfect score.
Speaker C:But whether it's your voice, the enemy's voice, or his voice and what he's saying to you, and especially when I am in my quiet place, in my secret place, I have my own setting where I'm in a no distraction zone.
Speaker C:Phone is away.
Speaker C:I have soaking music on.
Speaker C:I sound weird, like, soaking worship music where it's light instrumentals.
Speaker C:Because I've trained my brain of when that's on.
Speaker C:Like we.
Speaker C:This is the time that we're in.
Speaker C:Because otherwise my brain will squirrel off to all these other areas.
Speaker C:So I aligned it with the fruits of the spirit.
Speaker C:And then I pray, lord, give me discernment.
Speaker C:Is this you?
Speaker C:And then it's just like this knowing and this feeling just like knowing like he's going to be there every time you pray.
Speaker C:He listens.
Speaker C:And the only reason we would doubt that is because that's the enemy's voice.
Speaker C:Doubt that is not from the Lord of is he really going to come through?
Speaker C:Is this really going to happen?
Speaker C:That's not a fruit of the spirit.
Speaker C:So most of the time, when you align it with the fruits of the spirit, you will know.
Speaker C:And then it just takes trusting yourself.
Speaker C:And you have to know this.
Speaker C:God trusts you.
Speaker C:He trusts that you're going to make the right decision.
Speaker C:So lean into that.
Speaker C:Doesn't mean we're going to always make the right decision.
Speaker C:But so many people get paralyzed of let's just make no decision and then just stay stuck because it's safer than making the wrong one.
Speaker C:Where your girls made plenty of wrong decisions, but we learned from them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:A lot of times we learn more from the wrong decision than we ever do from the right ones.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm right with you on that.
Speaker B:So then here's what in this line of thinking, you're an empowered woman.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I like empowered more than I like power.
Speaker B:We all talk about power, but I think there's so much authority behind empowered.
Speaker B:And you are a very beautiful, like, example of what an empowered woman looks like.
Speaker B:Entrepreneur.
Speaker B:Here's from God doing the things.
Speaker B:So then how do you stand up against the voices, against the religious, the people that may try to come against you and say you're not good enough?
Speaker B:All of these things, like, how do you do this with confidence and don't want to run back to the shell.
Speaker C:I love this question.
Speaker C:The first thing that comes to mind is a mentor of mine, my business partner, Michelle Schaefer.
Speaker C:Talk about somebody who just stands up against the religious.
Speaker C:There's so many people that will spew their religiosity and their doubt and their fear all over you.
Speaker C:And she has been such a pillar in my life to just be like, no, enough is enough.
Speaker C:I'm not like, we're not going to stand for that that is not truth.
Speaker C:And so I get to see somebody on a daily basis doing that.
Speaker C:And that's important.
Speaker C:If you don't have somebody that's showing you the way and blazing a trail, which I've always needed.
Speaker C:I've always prayed for female mentors.
Speaker C:And there was a lot of no's and in walks Michelle.
Speaker C:We just become business partners.
Speaker C:And she's an incredible mentor of mine in our company, Kingdom Alliance.
Speaker C:And so watching somebody do that day in, day out, it builds something in you of, you know what?
Speaker C:Most people won' do that because of the confrontation and the rub.
Speaker C:But why are we so comfortable of just letting people talk all this nonsense all over us?
Speaker C:So it got me to look at myself even before I met Michelle, before I met Michelle, of like, what do I stand for?
Speaker C:What do I stand for?
Speaker C: me a lot of that, because in: Speaker C:We didn't know what was going to be shut down.
Speaker C:The Internet, the world, like, we had no idea what was going on.
Speaker C:So I said, lord, where do we go?
Speaker C:What do we do?
Speaker C:I came across this shirt that I ended up purchasing and it says, think why it's still legal.
Speaker C:And it's funny.
Speaker C:And I wore that thing until I couldn't wear it anymore and had holes in it.
Speaker C:However, it got me to be like, what do you actually think?
Speaker C:What do you actually believe?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Like, you have to do the digging.
Speaker C:And for so long I was just like, that sounds good.
Speaker C:That sounds good.
Speaker C:I'm going to put this in my car.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker C:Rather than, no, but do you really believe that?
Speaker C:Is that something you can stand on?
Speaker C:Do a little research, do a little digging?
Speaker C:My husband's great at this.
Speaker C:If he wants to know something, he does a lot of digging and way more than I would do.
Speaker C:But I respect the fact that he really wants to know that he knows.
Speaker C:So then you can really stand up against it.
Speaker C:Because a lot of believers, a lot of people call themselves Christians, will go to church.
Speaker C:The pastoral spoon feed.
Speaker C:Check that in your own time.
Speaker C:Like, use your discernment to be like, do I believe in that or not?
Speaker C:And you're not going to believe everything.
Speaker C:But for the longest time growing up in church, I remember being a part of the church.
Speaker C:I was growing up, oh, my gosh, if I was a part of that now, I would scream if I was at service, being like, this is so dry and not real.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And it allows people to just shrink and not feel like they actually have a voice when there is so much power that is in us and God gets to use us, and when you understand that we are his highest form of creation and we get to be used, that doesn't have to be a scary thing because he's always with us.
Speaker C:It really does something to you.
Speaker C:And maybe it's just me, maybe I'm the only one, but at the end of the day, I know that God built me for something so much bigger than just to collect a check, Be a wife, be a mom.
Speaker C:Those are all amazing things.
Speaker C:Be a great friend, daughter, all the above.
Speaker C:There.
Speaker C:It's so much bigger than that.
Speaker C:We all have a voice, we all have a story, and our story matters.
Speaker C:And so, yeah, it fires me up every day because I know my calling is so much bigger than just me.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:I love what you said there too.
Speaker B:It's always double check.
Speaker B:I'm like that.
Speaker B:Me and my wife have the same dynamic.
Speaker B:I get hyper focused and I want to learn, like, everything.
Speaker B:Like, I'm digging and she's, oh, this is cool.
Speaker B:And so I'm trying to teach her how to dig.
Speaker B:So it's been an interesting dynamic.
Speaker B:She's loving it.
Speaker B:One thing I, the Bible says actually in Acts, it says the Bereans went back and double checked everything Paul said and they were counted as a noble.
Speaker B:Which shows us that even Paul, he's the reason why we're all Christians right now.
Speaker B:There were people double checking him and they were seen as like, these amazing people and noble.
Speaker B:Like, we should do the same.
Speaker B:And so I love how you brought that out.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:That's my soapbox area that I usually get on sometimes on Facebook, like, yo, let's not just take value.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker B:So let's tie this back around because you've mentioned it through the several ports of this points at this interview.
Speaker B:Give people a voice.
Speaker B:So where did that develop?
Speaker B:Was it something in your life where you.
Speaker B:Your voice was taken and now you're trying to not only develop the voice that you believe was taken and help others do the same?
Speaker B:Or was it something like, I had a voice and God is just helping me amplify it to give it to someone else?
Speaker B:Explain that for me.
Speaker C:I would say growing up, a lot of people would say, you're too much, you talk too loud, sit down and be quiet.
Speaker C:However, I just didn't.
Speaker C:I just kept going.
Speaker C:So I was like, okay.
Speaker C:So I always push back a little bit.
Speaker C:And then funny enough, I get into the news industry where I want to help other people have a voice.
Speaker C:I was trained to obviously be able to speak.
Speaker C:Right, Right.
Speaker C:And understanding how so many people are scared to have a voice because the imposter syndrome or whatever you want to call it, like, why me?
Speaker C:And I've really helped people reframe.
Speaker C:Why not you?
Speaker C:And if God gets glory through our testimony, yet so many people are terrified to speak, how is he going to get the glory that he truly deserves?
Speaker C:And it's never going to be enough.
Speaker C:But at least it's something.
Speaker C:It's what we can bring.
Speaker C:All we have is what we can bring.
Speaker C:And so many people are just terrified because they've had so many family members or experiences or whatever.
Speaker C:If you're too much, be quiet.
Speaker C:You're shy.
Speaker C:So they grew up shy.
Speaker C:Now they're a shy adult.
Speaker C:And they've taken that on as an identity.
Speaker C:Because I could have gone the other direction and been like, oh, this I am too much.
Speaker C:Maybe I shouldn't.
Speaker C:Maybe I should.
Speaker C:But I kept digging into that being like, why is this so flagrant?
Speaker C:Why is this so loud coming back at me?
Speaker C:And when something is so.
Speaker C:This is always popping up, I tend to look at that more of maybe this is somewhere I need to go because the enemy's trying to block me from breaking through something here.
Speaker C:I know that the news to now, the news brought me into a space where I can learn how to do that, help people develop that voice.
Speaker C:And it's really.
Speaker C:It's what they've always had.
Speaker C:But just how can you put it together where you can help unlock your story and it can unlock other things and other people?
Speaker C:And inside our community, we have a speaker academy that really helps people dig down deep and just get the stories that are in there and get it out.
Speaker C:Because you didn't go through everything that you've gone through in your life for that to just stay stuck inside of you.
Speaker C:Like, people love stories.
Speaker C:They want to be inspired.
Speaker C:It's some of the best movies.
Speaker C:The best things that people love to see is the Underdog, the Overcomer, and there's so many more overcomers out there.
Speaker C:But yet we sit down, we're like, oh, not me.
Speaker C:It doesn't really matter.
Speaker C:And I rebuke that lie, and it drives me insane.
Speaker C:And I usually get a lot of righteous anger around it because I'm just like, no more.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker B:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker B:Hey, listen, I'll take.
Speaker B:Everybody can have their righteous indignation or their righteous anger and all that stuff.
Speaker B:But listen, if you're speaking truth, speak truth.
Speaker B:Just end the story.
Speaker B:It's because in the end of the day, I'd rather offend your mind and save your heart than try to save your heart and offend those.
Speaker B:Instead of offend your.
Speaker B:I just messed that whole little thing up.
Speaker B:That's funny.
Speaker B:So you never have those four thoughts that just came in at once and you're like, wow, that just happened.
Speaker B:And we caught it on air.
Speaker B:So here even we all get it right.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker B:So I had a mentor once, told me, he said, offend the mind to reveal the heart.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That he had said that one time.
Speaker B:And I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:I'd rather offend your mind instead of saving your heart as opposed to offending your heart to save your mind.
Speaker B:Because we can.
Speaker B:There's this dynamic in there, is we're always going to have a troll.
Speaker B:We're always going to have somebody who's angry at us.
Speaker B:We're always going to have those.
Speaker B:Even Jesus.
Speaker B:Those.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:And so I love that, like, just stand up the voice and you hear it here on the thing to the audience.
Speaker B:Like, just stand up and use your voice.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna highly recommend that you get connect with Molly and what she's doing, how she's doing it, because this is a very empowered woman who then, if you feel like a very good connection, a very strong calling, the Holy Spirit's kind of knitting you guys together.
Speaker B:Make sure you reach out to that, to her.
Speaker B:And we will put all those things in the show notes in a minute.
Speaker B:But before we do, let's talk about the wisdom bomb.
Speaker B:I for my listeners, you've been here with the show for a while, or maybe this is your first time.
Speaker B:We do what's called hashtag wisdom bomb.
Speaker B:If you go on my Facebook at Lead with Jim, you see it.
Speaker B: I've been doing it since: Speaker B:It says hashtag wisdom bomb.
Speaker B:It's a portable truth.
Speaker B:And the portable truths is, hey, this is something you take in your life and do it today.
Speaker B:With that being said, Molly, what is a wisdom bomb that you would give to the audience?
Speaker C:I love.
Speaker C:This is one of my favorite quotes.
Speaker C:When I heard it, it stuck with me for life.
Speaker C:I'm going to say it the way that it's it was said, and then I'm going to phrase it so we can take it on for our own self.
Speaker C:I fight for people's possibilities while they fight for their limitations.
Speaker C:You need to fight for your own possibilities in the midst of your body, even trying to fight for its limitation.
Speaker C:Our body's always meant to keep us safe.
Speaker C:But in a comfort zone, nothing grows.
Speaker C:And so many people are just.
Speaker C:Especially over the last couple of years we've had.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:Things were not easy.
Speaker C:They were hard.
Speaker C:But it's time to press through.
Speaker C:It's time to have this time next year, your life look like something totally different.
Speaker C:And if we just keep letting the same things hold us back of what people think, letting people speak in your life that shouldn't be.
Speaker C:It's time to cut that off, respectfully being like, I love you and no more.
Speaker C:Here is my boundary.
Speaker C: In: Speaker C:Because the dreams and visions that God has given in our put in our hearts and has given to us like it deserves at least that.
Speaker C:So I always speak like I fight for people's possibilities while they fight for their limitations.
Speaker C:And I take that on as a leader, as a mantle that God's given me.
Speaker C:And I know how weighty that call is.
Speaker C:At the same time, when I meet people with that same energy, they're like, wow.
Speaker C:And sometimes you might be the first that has ever done it for somebody else or even just for yourself and it feels good because you're no going in the right direction.
Speaker C:Because we have to be fighting for something.
Speaker C:We have to be fighting for something.
Speaker C:So many people literally fight for nothing and they just sit on the sidelines.
Speaker C:So it's just time to get in the game.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:So how can we find you?
Speaker C:I would say, gosh, I'm all over social media.
Speaker C:Instagram, Molly Underscore, Trotter, Facebook, Molly Trotter, Gomez.
Speaker C:Those are probably the easiest.
Speaker C:I'm always on those.
Speaker C:I know we have a lot of links below, so you can click those.
Speaker C:I think there's probably TikTok, LinkedIn, our website, all the above.
Speaker C:But I would love to hear what was something that you got from the show.
Speaker C:And Jim, I just want to say thank you so much for hosting this show.
Speaker C:You are an incredible question asker.
Speaker C:You probably asked me questions that I have never been asked before and I just want to honor you for that because that really shows just the attentiveness that you have and really just being able to draw that value for your audience.
Speaker C:I just want to say thank you for just giving me a place to share my story and I hope it blessed somebody today.
Speaker B:Definitely has blessed me and it's an honor to have you on the show.
Speaker B:And so thank you for saying yes and coming off and having this conversation.
Speaker B:So you guys who are the audience, we will make sure all of that is in the show notes, click it, do the thing, go connect, message, ask about the community because it sounds like it's a beautiful community.
Speaker B:Especially I think you said you're focusing on women.
Speaker B:Do you do other than women or is this women?
Speaker C:Yeah, so we primarily started that way but we rebranded.
Speaker C:So Kingdom alliance is open to anyone that really just wants that, you know, biblically based faith forward community that provides opportunity for growth and just building a life around things that matter most.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker B:So thank you for the clarity.
Speaker B:So that way to you, the audience, man or woman, whatever it is, connect and see what figure it out.
Speaker B:You know, learn to make money while do ministry, entrepreneurship and travel.
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