Life Feels Too Heavy? What Nobody Tells You About Burnout & Calling
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If you’ve ever felt like life was unbearably heavy—so heavy you wanted to quit—you’re not alone. In this raw and practical episode, Jim Burgoon opens up about depression, burnout, and what Scripture and psychology both reveal about navigating soul-tired seasons.
Through biblical truth, psychological research, and lived experience, Jim shares why heaviness doesn’t disqualify you from your calling—and the surprising truth nobody tells you about depression and burnout.
This isn’t a pep talk. This is a roadmap to rise again.
🔑 Episode Highlights
- Why depression and heaviness are human responses, not weakness.
- The connection between chronic stress, burnout, and your nervous system.
- What Scripture shows us through David, Elijah, and Jesus about soul-heaviness.
- The R.I.S.E. framework: 4 steps to remember when you want to give up.
- A simple Mind–Heart–Body check-in to reset your life.
- Why hobbies, novelty, and creativity can actually rewire your brain with hope.
📝 Key Takeaways
- Heaviness ≠ brokenness. It’s a human response to prolonged stress.
- You are still called—even when you feel soul-tired.
- Small steps stack into momentum. Don’t underestimate the power of one action.
- Healing comes through community, faith, and radical acceptance.
- Your mind, heart, and body all need regular check-ins.
📖 Scripture References
- Psalm 42:5 – “Why, my soul, are you downcast? … Put your hope in God.”
- Hebrews 12:2 – “For the joy set before Him, He endured the cross.”
- Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 – “Two are better than one…”
- Philippians 4:8 – “Whatever is true, noble, right, pure…think on these things.”
- Matthew 11:28 – “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened…”
💡 For the Listener
If you’re walking through a heavy season right now, you’re not broken—and you’re not disqualified. God’s call on your life has not changed. Take one small step today, invite God and others into it, and remember: you are still called.
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Transcript
If you've ever felt that life was heavy, that you wanted to give up, that you just felt like it was just too much to create to put something out into the world, well, today's your episode.
Speaker B:Welcome to Online Business for Christian Creatives, the show that helps you build a business that honors God, fuels your creativity, and actually pays the bills.
Speaker B:I'm your host, Jim Burgoon, leadership coach, Faith first, entrepreneur, and a guy who's made just about out every mistake so you don't have to.
Speaker A:Let's get into it.
Speaker A:Hey, friends.
Speaker A:Welcome back to the show.
Speaker A:My name is Jim.
Speaker A:I'm your host today.
Speaker A:I'm so grateful that you're here today.
Speaker A:I wanted to dive into an episode that was a little bit different than the normal because I wasn't feeling up to doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:I wasn't feeling up to producing or creating.
Speaker A:Matter of fact, I felt really heavy, and I felt like I just wanted to lay in bed all day.
Speaker A:And if you followed the show for any length of time, you know, I do struggle with some chronic illness and some other things, but then I got up and I was like, you know, instead of the normal inspirational motivational stuff wrapped around some deep, like science and different things, let's just have an open, honest discussion with some practical tips on what do you do when you feel too heavy or too down to do anything.
Speaker A:So as we dive into this episode, we want to make sure that we first recognize that feeling heavy, feeling depression, things like that, is a natural, normal experience in this thing we call life.
Speaker A:That is not something that is unusual.
Speaker A:If anybody have ever told you that your depression is not normal, they are lying to you.
Speaker A:Depression at some point, whether it be seasonal or environmental or situational, does happen.
Speaker A:So we need to accept it, but we also need to understand that we need to do something about it.
Speaker A:Now, one side note, there are clinical depression, which is different than just seasonal or situational depression.
Speaker A:We want to make sure we note that because that takes medical diagnosis and that takes medical therapy and just different things to navigate that conversation.
Speaker A:But for today, the whole thing we want to context this with is if you feel heavy, down depressed, and you don't want to create, you don't want to get out there, you don't want to do anything, what do you do?
Speaker A:And so, with that being said, why do we feel heavy?
Speaker A:And the first thing is diving into the psychology of it.
Speaker A:Your chronic stress that you have been avoiding, that I have been avoiding, has gotten to critical mass.
Speaker A:This is where the nervous system gets stuck in Fight or flight.
Speaker A:This is where we are.
Speaker A:We're fried.
Speaker A:That's really what it comes down to.
Speaker A:We are fried because we never adequately coped with the stress that we were under.
Speaker A:So we experience these times of heaviness because it's our nervous system screaming at us.
Speaker A:We need to do something about this because we're our fight orf flight mechanism is flipped on.
Speaker A:And this is something we have to make sure we understand the signs.
Speaker A:Signs like, you're tired, you maybe have brain fog.
Speaker A:Depression doesn't always mean you're crying.
Speaker A:I mean, we get this understanding like, oh, he's depressed because he's crying.
Speaker A:That's not the case.
Speaker A:Sometimes depression is fatigue or lack of any type of want to do anything.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's you don't want to get up and actually get out of bed.
Speaker A:Sometimes you just zone out on a video game and you're just doing the thing because the numbness has set in.
Speaker A:And these are all warning signs that we have to make sure we're understanding and seeing at least and putting them before God, getting a therapist if we need it, but doing something about it.
Speaker A:Because if we ignore the warning signs, we move from these places of heaviness to burnout, to some sort of medical condition to some sort of health condition.
Speaker A:But we want to avoid that.
Speaker A:So that was what we're going to start with.
Speaker A:Understanding of the psychological groundwork.
Speaker A:Biblically, we see this too.
Speaker A:Psalm 42.
Speaker A:5 says, this is David saying, why my soul are you downcast?
Speaker A:Why so disturbed within me?
Speaker A:Pour your hope in or put your hope in God.
Speaker A:This is what he says.
Speaker A:So here's a man after God's own heart who is completely weighed down.
Speaker A:He's heavy.
Speaker A:We see this with Elijah, who had this massive victory over the prophets, and then he's found in a cave depressed, and God is feeding him and taking care of him.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So we do see this soul heaviness throughout scripture.
Speaker A:So if you're listening today and you say, I feel broken, I feel lost, I feel so tired that rest won't help.
Speaker A:I feel all of these things, I have to tell you, this isn't weakness.
Speaker A:It's a human response to prolonged weight that you've been carrying and never dealing with.
Speaker A:And I've got to make sure that we understand that you are feeling the heaviness because we've.
Speaker A:You have not dealt with it, because I know I have been somebody like that as well, where the longer we put off it, the more it comes back against us.
Speaker A:And you're not broken, you're human.
Speaker A:And as humans, we've got to make sure that we are maintaining the temple that God has put our souls in.
Speaker A:So with that being said, here we go.
Speaker A:We're going to dive into some practicality.
Speaker A:So the question we often ask when I want to give up, what do I do?
Speaker A:Do I just lean into it and give up?
Speaker A:Do I follow the temptation and quit?
Speaker A:Do I?
Speaker A:Or do I get tools or something that can say, here's what I can do in order to get through this, get over this, get, navigate this and things like that.
Speaker A:Now, first and foremost, before we dive into the acronym I created for you today, I will tell you, and I've got a precursor this, that if you need therapy, get therapy.
Speaker A:We do promote and say therapy is a viable option for Christians.
Speaker A:If you've ever been told that that is not like that's somehow against your faith, you have been lied to.
Speaker A:Get if you need therapy, go after it.
Speaker A:Let's dive into this acronym, which I'm calling rise.
Speaker A:Because when we feel low, we want to rise above it.
Speaker A:And that way you can do some things on your own for self care.
Speaker A:So the first one in the RISE acronym is R. And that's for remember your why.
Speaker A:Now, in business we talk about this.
Speaker A:Remember your why.
Speaker A:Because this is the thing that drives you.
Speaker A:But I also want to say this is something very important in our personal lives.
Speaker A:Because remembering our why, why we do this, why we show up, why we wake up, why we don't end our life, this is extremely important.
Speaker A:Here's Hebrews, Hebrews 12:2 for the joy set before him, Jesus endured the cross.
Speaker A:He didn't fixate on the pain.
Speaker A:He didn't fixate on the trauma of it.
Speaker A:He fixated on or he anchored himself in the why he was doing it.
Speaker A:So when you and I are going through something heavy, just go back to the place of what Remember your calling.
Speaker A:What did God say to me?
Speaker A:What is he saying to me?
Speaker A:What is he calling me to?
Speaker A:Remember that calling.
Speaker A:Because that is going to be the fuel you'll need to show up to either take care of yourself.
Speaker A:That is still showing up.
Speaker A:Self care is showing up and taking care of yourself or showing up like this and giving you a podcast episode around something you may be struggling with or you know, if you need.
Speaker A:If you want to start a podcast, I'm helping.
Speaker A:Happy to help you start that.
Speaker A:Reach out to me.
Speaker A:Jim Leadwith jim.com But you've got to remember your why.
Speaker A:And so and for some of you guys, your why is your Children, some of you guys, your why is your legacy what you're building to leave to your next generation.
Speaker A:Your why may be to being able to stand in crowds to do this.
Speaker A:Whatever that why is, it's not stupid.
Speaker A:It's not less than.
Speaker A:Don't compare your why.
Speaker A:Remember your why when you feel low.
Speaker A:The second thing is I invite God and others into the problem.
Speaker A:Now, Ecclesiastes 4 said reminds us two are better than one.
Speaker A:See, we don't fight isolation, loneliness and heaviness by ourselves.
Speaker A:We fight it with friends.
Speaker A:We fight it with God.
Speaker A:And so when we, when we really get into this, what we do, you and I and what psychology has shown us that when something hard or heavy hits us, we want to isolate.
Speaker A:And this could be a trauma response because we are in fight orf flight.
Speaker A:And the trauma response could be, I don't trust myself or I don't trust others when I'm vulnerable.
Speaker A:So let me do this.
Speaker A:And what that this is, is running into the room, locking it until you feel better.
Speaker A:That is not how we fight our battles.
Speaker A:As a Christian, and especially in the business world, when we step up, we think we can take on the world, hide from it a little bit and come back and take it on.
Speaker A:This is not how we fight our battles.
Speaker A:How we fight our battles is in community.
Speaker A:Read the entire New Testament.
Speaker A:It goes back to community.
Speaker A:And if you are running from community, you're running from God's plan on how to push you, how to grow you, how to speak to you, and how to rise.
Speaker A:Rise you above the things that you're facing.
Speaker A:We invite God into the process and then we invite our dear friends.
Speaker A:Not every friend.
Speaker A:Don't go on social media being like, hey, I feel like this today so that you can get these little dopamine hits and make yourself feel better, Right?
Speaker A:Like on your birthday when you get 500 people saying happy birthday.
Speaker A:No, this is not what this is.
Speaker A:You get the two or three people who are going to lift you up in a way that's going to be very unique to you and your friendship.
Speaker A:And they do it because they care, not because they want something from you.
Speaker A:So in our, in our acronym of rise, the next thing is S. This is.
Speaker A:Small steps matter.
Speaker A:Small steps matter because psychology shows us that even tiny steps, tiny actions like taking a shower, fixing your bed, going for a walk, or writing a sentence, maybe you get in there and you read one scripture, man.
Speaker A:What I mean, one scripture.
Speaker A:It's one verse.
Speaker A:Maybe you just write one thing in your journal.
Speaker A:Maybe you're gonna type one post that day.
Speaker A:Every little action stacks can.
Speaker A:And this can lift your mood because each action completed represents a win.
Speaker A:And every win that you gain will lift your mood.
Speaker A:As long as you're not on the clinical side, that's a different conversation.
Speaker A:I got to remind you of that.
Speaker A:But every win that you stack can lift your mood, change the way you feel, and allow you to engage in a deeper way.
Speaker A:This is called behavioral activation therapy.
Speaker A:It's small, but it's powerful.
Speaker A:And I want you to hear that because you know, you hear it online anyway.
Speaker A:They're like, take action, take action.
Speaker A:Stop overthinking, Take action.
Speaker A:But psychology tells us there is some truth to that.
Speaker A:So instead of living in our heads in isolation, map out small steps.
Speaker A:They may seem insignificant to your thought process, but they are never insignificant to your nervous system.
Speaker A:So I want you to make sure that when you feel low and you want to rise above it, take the small actions, no matter how many or how little they are.
Speaker A:Every little action stacks and every stack means at some point, there's a tipping point where it changes everything.
Speaker A:And what you felt before now is not how you're feeling.
Speaker A:And then the last thing.
Speaker A:And this is more of a place of radical acceptance.
Speaker A:And this is our E, which is expect es and flows.
Speaker A:Now, I am huge on this conversation around ebbs and flows because healing is not linear.
Speaker A:Feelings don't follow patterns, right?
Speaker A:We have patterns.
Speaker A:Every one of us have patterns.
Speaker A:We live by, speak by ebbs, behave by.
Speaker A:But feelings can just throw chaos into all of that.
Speaker A:And there are good days, there are bad days.
Speaker A:There are really bad days, and they're really good days.
Speaker A:But grace gives us the permission to ride the wave instead of forcing ourselves to be on.
Speaker A:You know, the quotes here for you guys who are just listening, quote unquote on.
Speaker A:For you guys in YouTube on, right.
Speaker A:All the time.
Speaker A:But see, we take scriptures out of.
Speaker A:Out of context, like, be ready in season and all season to say, in season and out of season to say, hey, we need to be on all the time.
Speaker A:No, you do not need to be on all the time.
Speaker A:You need to be present.
Speaker A:But present looks different in every situation.
Speaker A:And you don't need to be like the master of the wave every time.
Speaker A:Sometimes the surfer spills and gets wiped out.
Speaker A:Sometimes they ride the barrel down the.
Speaker A:Down the pike.
Speaker A:You like this, right?
Speaker A:This is my side note of learning surfing terms.
Speaker A:I am not a surfer, by the way, but they ride that pipe down and it looks cool as anything.
Speaker A:And they're having A good day because they're like, yeah, they just got that woo.
Speaker A:You know, both are adequate, both are acceptable because we ride the ebbs and flows.
Speaker A:And this is where we have to practice radical acceptance.
Speaker A:You cannot ride in ebb and flow without radical acceptance because radical acceptance tells us that we understand and accept.
Speaker A:There will be highs, there will be lows.
Speaker A:I will have good days, I will have bad days.
Speaker A:Bad.
Speaker A:But the es and flows of it is going to constantly shift, which means my good day will not always be my good day.
Speaker A:My bad day will not always be my bad day.
Speaker A:Everything I go through, everything I feel has the opportunity to flip, and we have to live in the radical acceptance of that.
Speaker A:Because when I radically accept that things can go either way, they can change in a minute, that, you know what, I. I can just accept and be like, I'm okay, it's going to be okay.
Speaker A:If I'm in a really bad day, I can accept that it's going to be a good day at some point today or tomorrow or maybe the next day, if I'm in a really good day, I can even accept that, you know what?
Speaker A:I'm in a really good day.
Speaker A:And at some point something's going to come and try to mess my day up.
Speaker A:And that's okay too.
Speaker A:We ride the ebbs and flows because we're trusting God to bring us to a place of maturity.
Speaker A:And in doing that, we can rest and not be all the.
Speaker A:All on, all the time so that we can give our nervous system a break, a rest, a respite, in order to take us out of fight and flight and be in rest and remember.
Speaker A:And if you've listened to this show, I don't.
Speaker A:It doesn't matter if you're an entrepreneur, a leader, a business owner, you know, a creator, an author, a speaker, whatever you put your moniker or your title on.
Speaker A:The thing is, is that we have to trust God and God tells us to rest.
Speaker A:So we lead our business from a place of rest, not from a place of always being on.
Speaker A:So whenever you feel like giving up or laying low or isolating, remember the acronym of rise.
Speaker A:Remember your why invite God and others into the situation.
Speaker A:Small steps matter and go with the ebbs and flows.
Speaker A:And as a bonus, I want to give you one more tactic, one more tip, one more thought, because I go through this a lot.
Speaker A:And just to give you the basis of somebody who is diagnosed with complex ptsd, who also is diagnosed with something that's called pdd, which is persistent depression disorder, and who also loves Jesus with all of his heart that we do have these things where we're dealing with the issues of life before a holy God.
Speaker A:And we watch God change and help us and transform us and get us through the low days.
Speaker A:Because it's in our weakness God's perfected in his power and his presence.
Speaker A:And it's in our good days where we can walk side by side with a friend and the friend we have in Jesus.
Speaker A:I want to give you this one last thing because I live this, the rise I, you know, and I live this other thing I'm about to tell you because it's the, it's the mind, heart, body check in kind of thing.
Speaker A:But it's a tool I use and here's what it is.
Speaker A:Let's just get into it.
Speaker A:So with the mind, I always kind of when I'm feeling down, and today as just transparency.
Speaker A:I was feeling really down today just because I can't tell you why.
Speaker A:It's just happens.
Speaker A:And, and with the mind, it's what thought is weighing me down.
Speaker A:Like I really try to sit there and reflect on.
Speaker A:And I ask the Holy Spirit, help me understand what thought is weighing me down.
Speaker A:Then I ask, is it true?
Speaker A:Is this thought true?
Speaker A:Or does my body believe it's true?
Speaker A:Because they are not the same thing, my friends.
Speaker A:And can I reframe what I'm believing?
Speaker A:Because if it's not true, I can reframe it to the truth of this, of the Word of God.
Speaker A:If it is true, then what am I believing?
Speaker A:That's caus it to have friction in my body, that or my mind.
Speaker A:So what do I need to let go of in order to come in alignment with the truth?
Speaker A:And you know, and then it comes back to the mind thing with Philippians 4.
Speaker A:8.
Speaker A:Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, think on these things, right?
Speaker A:And then later, somewhere in that, those verses it says, and this will, you know, the peace of God that passes all understanding will guard your heart.
Speaker A:And then we know in Proverbs that guard your heart with all.
Speaker A:With all diligence, for out of it flows the issues of life.
Speaker A:So if I'm.
Speaker A:If my mind is often heavy and I go into the.
Speaker A:Through that process, is it true?
Speaker A:What am I believing?
Speaker A:What is weighing me down?
Speaker A:And I really dive into that.
Speaker A:And then I say, okay, of that, what can I really think on?
Speaker A:And if I think on these things, the peace of God that passes all our understanding will guard my heart.
Speaker A:And if my heart is guarded with all diligence, Then the issues of life will begin to settle.
Speaker A:The second thing is the heart connection.
Speaker A:Now, because your mind, your heart, this is all interconnected.
Speaker A:You are not just a mind, body and heart, or mind, body, and soul just kind of jumbled in there.
Speaker A:You are connected.
Speaker A:So the heart connection is.
Speaker A:What connection do I need right now?
Speaker A:So instead of running, who do I need right now that can cheer me up?
Speaker A:Who do I need right now that can sit with me?
Speaker A:Do I need a friend?
Speaker A:Do I need a journal?
Speaker A:Do I need to sit with God in prayer?
Speaker A:Or do I need all the above?
Speaker A:And these are things that we have to really figure out to connect our heart.
Speaker A:And I want to make mention now Job's friends gets a bad rap.
Speaker A:They're like, yeah, you've probably been in church or heard it on there.
Speaker A:And everybody preaches against Job's friends.
Speaker A:But I want to tell you something about interesting the Holy Spirit showed me about Job and his friends is that in the beginning of Job's Friends, they sat with him for seven days ripping hit their clothes, you know, which is a sign of great grief.
Speaker A:And they sat in silence for seven days with Job just being present before they even got into the whole.
Speaker A:Maybe you did this, and maybe you did this trying to have that discourse.
Speaker A:Sometimes you need a friend to just sit with you.
Speaker A:Sometimes you just need to call somebody.
Speaker A:Hey, can you come over?
Speaker A:I don't want to say a word.
Speaker A:Let's just eat pizza together.
Speaker A:Let's just have ice cream together and just sit there in silence.
Speaker A:I just need somebody present.
Speaker A:Maybe it is the journal.
Speaker A:Maybe it is just prayer.
Speaker A:Maybe it's all the above.
Speaker A:You need to ask yourself, what connection do I need to make right now?
Speaker A:And the last thing is the body.
Speaker A:And this is a big question for me.
Speaker A:And I've taught my wife this over the years because she struggles with some mental illness.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I ask her, and I tell her, whenever you're feeling off dysregulated and things, ask yourself, what do I need right now?
Speaker A:What does my body need?
Speaker A:Do I need more sleep?
Speaker A:Do I need better nutrition?
Speaker A:Do I need to move?
Speaker A:Most of us need to move more because we sit in front of these computers and on TV screens all day long.
Speaker A:We need to move.
Speaker A:Do we need a break?
Speaker A:Do we need to do something?
Speaker A:Do we need to fish?
Speaker A:Do I need to go out in nature?
Speaker A:My wife loves nature.
Speaker A:I like it when it's cooler outside and a little bit at dusk or dawn.
Speaker A:But either way, what does your body need?
Speaker A:And then go, give it to it.
Speaker A:Like for me, all of this, I go through this process and I realized today I need adventure again.
Speaker A:It's been so long since I've traveled.
Speaker A:Matter of fact, the last time I traveled out, you know, inside the US it was for the Spartan races.
Speaker A:And then my body just completely, it collapsed.
Speaker A:And so I haven't had the ability to travel because of the sickness I've been under.
Speaker A:But I want to travel again.
Speaker A:I want to, you know, I want to plan to Hawaii, I want to plan a trip to Iceland and I want to plan a trip to these places that I want to see with my eyes.
Speaker A:The aurora borealis is like a dream for me.
Speaker A:I also know I need to start a hobby.
Speaker A:And because I'm a multi passionate and probably have a touch of ADHD and a little giftedness, I want to learn how to forge.
Speaker A:I forged a knife one time and now I want to buy the whole set and forge in my garage.
Speaker A:But I'm in the middle of a city so I wonder if they'll let you do that.
Speaker A:And if not, can we sell the house and go live in a countryside so I can forge?
Speaker A:These are things that speak to my soul.
Speaker A:These are cravings I'm having.
Speaker A:Now I am a creative, so I'm creating, creating creative things that involve people because I'm a people person that involves people, travel, adventure and creativity.
Speaker A:That may not be you.
Speaker A:You may just need a book somewhere in the world with a cup of coffee and that's all you need.
Speaker A:That's okay too.
Speaker A:But I'm going to tell you, go find something life giving and go do it.
Speaker A:And you know, science backs this up because novelty and hobbies boost dopamine and actually help rewire our brains with through neuroplasticity.
Speaker A:And because of that, and I'll just give you the basis of that, what it gives is it gives your brain hope again.
Speaker A:It rewires it to tell you you're not trash, you're not gonna live in a negative world.
Speaker A:You have hope.
Speaker A:And for us as a believer, we find our hope in Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:So let's go ahead and start doing the things we need.
Speaker A:Rise above it, mind, heart, body, and include it with that.
Speaker A:And go out and live the adventure that you've been telling yourself you're unable to do.
Speaker A:You get one life in this world, you.
Speaker A:And there's few things that we get to do or we're mandated to do.
Speaker A:One of those things is to share the message of the gospel.
Speaker A:We are mandated to do those things.
Speaker A:The other things you get to pick where that is, when that is, how that is, and you follow the Holy Spirit on an adventure of a lifetime.
Speaker A:And just before we go, I want to do invite you in to an email list of growing about I think I've got over a little 4, 400 plus people on this email list that I'm working on sending an email out every week.
Speaker A:It's going to include journal prompts, it's going to include some dep you don't hear on the episode regularly, some Bible studies, some business advice, some creativity and it's just me getting to know you and us building a relationship.
Speaker A:You'd like to do that?
Speaker A:Go to leadwithjim.com forward/nl jump on the list.
Speaker A:Let's hang out together.
Speaker A:I would love to have you there and just let's grow and see what God's going to do together.
Speaker A:And as we close this episode out, I'm so grateful that you've made it this far.
Speaker A:If life feels heavy, if it feels unbearable, just know the scripture.
Speaker A:I'm going to give you encouragement.
Speaker A: Scripture Matthew: Speaker A:This is Jesus talking.
Speaker A:Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
Speaker A:So if life is heavy, rise above it.
Speaker A:Mind, body, soul, my heart, body.
Speaker A:Get into it with Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:Get his rest and then go out and do your day and I'll see you on the next episode.
